Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

I read an article where the writer is repeatedly uneasy about how conversations on Mastodon are devoid of politics, ”as if the outside world doesn’t exist.” The idea being that the birdsite is more connected to reality?

It’s frustrating to me that anyone would portray algorithm-boosted rage as representative of the world stage, and real, human conversation as non-representative of the human condition and human desire.

The world is upside-down.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom Also: devoid of politics?
Seems they're stuck in the mode of politics as rage or hate.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@Mabande Ha. Exactly. In my mind almost everything is politics, but that’s a rant for another day ;)

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom Yeah, but even if you're looking for explicit political conversation there's a lot.
Though it differs from the constant dunking on opponents that abounds when even hate groups are expected to be given equal time.

@axbom if anything I've seen more connection to the real world on here. The bird site is one of the worst if not the worst for any kind of discussion.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom
Absolutely. 👍

@reynir It’s an old one, and I hesitated to include it as the thing I reacted to is really only a small part, and not the focal point, of the piece. It can easily derail the conversation. Been researching the history (and drama) of Mastodon and there were some important insights, that can also be triggering. But as you asked, I want to share:

telegra.ph/mastodon-fediverse-

@axbom ok yea there's a lot of things I don't agree with. For example that putting CWs on politics posts is "hiding the outside world" is just disingenuous.
Author is also disappointed to not see much activity, but only follows 30 accounts. You can easily observe the same on Twitter if you follow average accounts and not the loud ones.

Also a weird focus on Trump

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom also: how on earth could anyone claim that conversations on mastodon are devoid of politics? :D

(answer: they just haven't seen much of conversations on here.)

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom @vfrmedia in real life most people avoid talking politics unless it’s with family or close friends (in my experience anyway).

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom what foolishness.

Maybe they should stick to the robot overlord website.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom Yet there are a lot of conversations about #politics here. But they are civil conversations. The one thing that I haven’t seen here is the #alt-right. And of course, good riddance of #fascism. So I don’t see the problem of those kinds of journalists. Unless they want to see just the one brand of politics.

fascism 

@alternative_be I've seen a lot of them. Probably the number one most frequently asked question I get over DMs and emails is "But why, Sandra, why don't you support a white ethnostate and mass deportation? Why do you side with the immigrants?"

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fascism 

@Sandra @axbom I’ve had that question on FB and Twitter in DM too, but not here fortunately. I would report and block them.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom This is someone whose idea of "politics" isn't running for school board, registering people to vote, having face-to-face conversations, or even something as simple as calling their congressperson - it's more like pressing buttons on a website. For hours.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom - Agree 110%. Well said.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom Algorithm boosted rage is just the perfect three-word description of the bird site.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom
Sounds like a writer complaining they that platform isn't dishing up ready-made articles for them.

One of the worst elements of Twitter is how basically mandatory it was for journalists and those LARPing as one to be on there. It resulted in the "Twitter trend as news" phenomenon, which, in turn, resulted in "creating Twitter trends to make news" phenomenon.

Those writing stories about politics have gotten used to a platform telling them what to write. Any platform that doesn't do that is going to seem "devoid" of their topic.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom Mainstream news and social media has trained our brains to chase the dopamine hits of sensationalism, negativity, and drama, regardless whether they’re actually based in reality.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom Not to mention that the idea that Mastodon conversations are devoid of politics itself is completely false.

Short rant about misconception of Mastodon 

@axbom hahaha what kind of take is "talk about anything else than politics is not real talk"? What kind of twitter feed does this person have? It must be horrible.

@axbom

Sun Ra told us to get off that planet, "it's a Hell on wheels," he said, "You don't want to be a citizen of THIS planet, it takes too LONG" and declared us all Citizens of his Greater Universe, imploring us to escape the gravity of the Earth Age and explore the Outer Spaces.

And here we are...

#SunRa #alterdestiny #omniverse #SolarMyth

@axbom it's like they've never even used the bird site? It's just people shouting at each other.

Also, why do we have to discuss politics? I joined the bird site to talk football and see cats.

Now it's just hate and shouting.

I'm sad about what it's become.

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@axbom I haven't seen the article you mention, but as a newbie here, & refugee from birdsite, I admit missing the pace of political exchanges. Sometimes screaming into the abyss can be cathartic. "Politics" shouldn't have to be a dirty word. It's everywhere & impacts every one, everything. I am hopeful that political discourse might be more civilized in the Fediverse & Mastodon.

@axbom I'm with you, I feel like the issue is more about their own definition of "politics" than with Mastodon's overall editorial line. I've seen plenty of political conversation on Mastodon, just not as much angry quote-shares and ratio dunking attempts in replies.

@axbom I think what the author is noticing is the lack of constant anger. I see politics on here daily.

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